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Jay Rosen

Now, wait, I didn't just make an "association" (weak word.) I tried to be precise. Here is what I said:

"This is not my tradition-- at all. But today it has powerful voices speaking for it, and it always has. (The ur-text is Ortega y Gasset's The Revolt of the Mas'where is this rage coming from?' Minogue offers a unique vantage point."

Saying that the tradition in which Minogue is writing has an ur-text, and that text is Ortega's is a long way from saying: "Ortega explains Minogue," or "put Minogue down for what Ortega says." By stressing that he has a unique perspective, I am saying Minogue is not Ortega, Minogue is himself.

Check it out: which "association" does the post actually make?

Thanks for your reflections on the thing overall.

Jay Rosen

Here's the unmangled quote.

This is not my tradition-- at all. But today it has powerful voices speaking for it, and it always has. (The ur-text is Ortega y Gasset's The Revolt of the Masses in 1930.) For a journalist wondering, "where is this rage coming from?" Minogue offers a unique vantage point.

dilys

Earnest appreciation to Jay for the engagement here. Seems to me the meaning of designating an "ur-text" is what's at stake; we may be talking a kind of academic meta-rubric. I'll have to think about the "association with" in a meaningful way--are there alternative ur-texts for Minogue's approach? Maybe refer this discussion to him for more authoritative "roots" discussion, unless that's a fatal authorial fallacy in today's academy.

Jay's Mind. Sheesh. Steel trap is hardly the word. A bracing pleasure.

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